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 |:::|[[M8 Records]]| |:::|[[M8 Records]]|
 |:::|[[Retroactive Records]]| |:::|[[Retroactive Records]]|
-|**Members:**|(1980-1981) [[Mark Krischak]], Chris Wimber, Ray Hersom|+|**Members:**|(1980-1981) [[Mark Krischak]], Chris Wimber, Ray Hersom, Kevin Lee|
 |:::|(1981-1982) [[Mark Krischak]], Chris Wimber, Kevin Lee, [[Michael Knott]]| |:::|(1981-1982) [[Mark Krischak]], Chris Wimber, Kevin Lee, [[Michael Knott]]|
 |:::|(1982) [[Mark Krischak]], [[Michael Knott]], Kevin Lee, John ? , Brandon ?| |:::|(1982) [[Mark Krischak]], [[Michael Knott]], Kevin Lee, John ? , Brandon ?|
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 Gary Wilson tells what he remembers of [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]] in the book //God's Not Dead (And Neither Are We)//. As of 1979, Jim Nicolson and [[Ojo|Joe Taylor]] were both in the band, and they had a tape that Wilson liked. They were eventually able to convinced Wilson to join on drums. About 4-6 weeks after he joined, the band split up. Gary Wilson tells what he remembers of [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]] in the book //God's Not Dead (And Neither Are We)//. As of 1979, Jim Nicolson and [[Ojo|Joe Taylor]] were both in the band, and they had a tape that Wilson liked. They were eventually able to convinced Wilson to join on drums. About 4-6 weeks after he joined, the band split up.
  
-Jim Nicolson, [[Ojo|Joe Taylor]], Danny Pavlis (drums), and [[Ric Alba]] (bass) started [[Undercover]]. [[Undercover]] started rehearsing in a greenhouse owned by Danny's parents. Chris Wimber and Ray Hersom formed [[The Lifesavors]].+Jim Nicolson, [[Ojo|Joe Taylor]], Danny Pavlis (drums), and [[Ric Alba]] (bass) started [[Undercover]]. [[Undercover]] started rehearsing in a greenhouse owned by Danny's parents. Chris Wimber and Ray Hersom connected with [[Mark Krischak]] and Kevin Lee to form [[The Lifesavors]].
  
 [[Ric Alba]] had this to say about the two bands: [[Ric Alba]] had this to say about the two bands:
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 >"I played keys in [[Boaz]] starting in 1978. I met them when my drummer-since-childhood Frank Pipitone auditioned and joined [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]]. Frank and I had 'got saved' at a hippie bible study group at the home of Ross Mann, and we had a hippy folk trio with Ross that broke up when Frank joined [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]]. [[Ojo]] had a friend, Chris Wimber, with a band that needed a singer and keyboard player, so Ross and I joined up and there was [[Boaz]]. >"I played keys in [[Boaz]] starting in 1978. I met them when my drummer-since-childhood Frank Pipitone auditioned and joined [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]]. Frank and I had 'got saved' at a hippie bible study group at the home of Ross Mann, and we had a hippy folk trio with Ross that broke up when Frank joined [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]]. [[Ojo]] had a friend, Chris Wimber, with a band that needed a singer and keyboard player, so Ross and I joined up and there was [[Boaz]].
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->"Chris' dad being John Wimber, we found ourselves opening for Lonnie Frisbee a number of times. Then we got some local notoriety for going, (gasp) "New Wave" when I wrote the song, "Francine" in 1979. This was the only [[Boaz]] song to outlive the big switcheroo of personnel when [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]] and [[Boaz]] became [[Undercover]] and [[The Lifesavors]].+>"Chris' dad being John Wimber (founder of the Vineyard movement), we found ourselves opening for Lonnie Frisbee a number of times. Then we got some local notoriety for going, (gasp) "New Wave" when I wrote the song, "Francine" in 1979. This was the only [[Boaz]] song to outlive the big switcheroo of personnel when [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]] and [[Boaz]] became [[Undercover]] and [[The Lifesavors]].
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 >"I had secretly idolized Taylor and Nicholson for their prog-rock abilities, as I was becoming a huge fan of Yes and Chris Squire at the time. I would have muscled my way into a band with them sooner but [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]]'s bassist, Jerry Davis, had become a good friend of mine and I respected that. Jerry became John's bassist for the Vineyard worship team, which lasted many years after that." >"I had secretly idolized Taylor and Nicholson for their prog-rock abilities, as I was becoming a huge fan of Yes and Chris Squire at the time. I would have muscled my way into a band with them sooner but [[JC Rose|J.C. Rose]]'s bassist, Jerry Davis, had become a good friend of mine and I respected that. Jerry became John's bassist for the Vineyard worship team, which lasted many years after that."
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 {{:the_lifesavors_-_us_kids_-_band_1.jpg?nolink|Band photo from Us Kids insert}} {{:the_lifesavors_-_us_kids_-_band_1.jpg?nolink|Band photo from Us Kids insert}}
  
-The Lifesavors were an early Christian pogo punk/new wave band that formed in 1980. According to the liner notes to [[Undercover]]’s //Volume 1// compilation, The Lifesavors were formed by Chris Wimber (the son of Vineyard founder John Wimber) and Ray Hersom. Wimber and Hersom had previously been in [[Boaz]] before forming The Lifesavors. Wimber and Hersom connected with [[Mark Krischak]] at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and the three formed The Lifesavors.+The Lifesavors are known as an early Christian pogo punk/new wave band that formed in 1980. [[Mark Krischak]] had originally been a part of [[The Popsicles]], a power pop / teen “glam” pop rock band based in Huntington Beach, California, that formed in 1978. After recording an independent 45 record on the OSP label in 1978, The Popsicles frequently played the Los Angeles Strip club scene. Rodney Bingenheimer of LA’s KROQ FM brought The Popsicles to the attention of famed record producer Kim Fowley in 1979. Fowley signed The Popsicles to a five-year record deal. The Popsicles two songs that were released on Kim Fowley’s //Hollywood Confidential// compilation LP. They were also featured in //Super Teen// magazine.
  
-Krischak had originally been a part of [[The Popsicles]], a power pop / teen “glam” pop rock band based in Huntington Beach, California, that formed in 1978. After recording an independent 45 record on the OSP label in 1978, The Popsicles frequently played the Los Angeles Strip club scene. Rodney Bingenheimer of LA’s KROQ FM brought The Popsicles to the attention of famed record producer Kim Fowley in 1979. Fowley signed The Popsicles to a five-year record deal. The Popsicles two songs that were released on Kim Fowley’s //Hollywood Confidential// compilation LP. They were also featured in //Super Teen// magazine.+In 1980, Krischak disappeared for two weeks and then reappeared saying he was a born-again Christian and had to quit the band. The Popsicles carried on, but one by one they also all became Christians. Their last concert was as a Christian band at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. Krischak ended up at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa because, according to him, “Chuck Smith’s church seemed to have a lot of music and bands going on at the time.” However, the pressures of life led to The Popsicles breaking up after that last concert. Krischak went around looking for people that liked the same kind of music and that wanted to have a ministry-type of band.
  
-In 1980, Krischak disappeared for two weeks and then reappeared saying he was a born-again Christian and had to quit the band. The Popsicles carried on, but one by one they also all became Christians. Their last concert was as a Christian band at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. Krischak ended up at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa because, according to him, “Chuck Smith’s church seemed to have a lot of music and bands going on at the time.” However, the pressures of life led to The Popsicles breaking up after that last concert. Krischak went around looking for people that liked the same kind of music and that wanted to have a ministry-type of band. He found Wimber, Hersom, and Kevin Lee (brother of [[Mike Stand]] of the [[Altar Boys]]) and they formed The Lifesavors.+About a year after becoming a Christian, Krischak went around looking for people that liked the same kind of music and that wanted to have a ministry-type of band. According to Krischak, "I was at a concert, and I met Chris Wimber, and he said that he knew a drummer named Kevin Lee (brother of [[Mike Stand]] of the [[Altar Boys]]). We needed a rhythm guitar player, and Ray Hersom used to let us practice at his house, and he had an amp and guitar and I asked him to play with us." Kevin Lee had a landscape business together with his brother [[Mike Stand]]. Stand recalled that one day out of the blue Lee mentioned to him that he was now playing with The Lifesavors. 
  
-Brothers Mike Stand and Kevin Lee had a landscape business together. One day Lee mentioned to his brother that he was now playing with The Lifesavors. Their first concert as The Lifesavors was at a roller skating rink in Yorba Linda, California, sometime in late 1980. Undercover and a band called [[The Chosen Ones]] also played at the concert. Stand went to see them the first time that The Lifesavors played at Calvary Chapel, where he was inspired to go that direction musically.+As far as the name of the band, Krischak was the one that came up with The Lifesavors. According to him, "I thought that since Jesus saves, that it would be a good name for the band, because we would be telling people about Jesus."
  
-The exact timeline of who joined the band when is unknown, but a live demo called //3-14-81 Live// (recorded at a church in Downey, California) contains at least one song credited to Krischak on a later album. Krischak served as the early leader of the band performing as lead vocalist, primary songwriter, and lead guitarist.+Their first concert as The Lifesavors was at a roller skating rink in Yorba Linda, California, sometime in late 1980. Undercover and a band called [[The Chosen Ones]] also played at the concert. Stand went to see them the first time that The Lifesavors played at Calvary Chapel, where he was inspired to go that direction musically.
  
-The Lifesavors seemed to be more at home in Hollywood clubs than churches. They often played with several punk icons, including the Darby Crash Band (Crash was co-founder of The Germs) in late 1980. They still played at churches from time to time, but Krischak later said “playing at Calvary Costa Mesa was kind of weird because they didn’t really care for dancing there and we were kind of used to everyone dancing and having fun.”+The original version of the band recorded their first demo, which also became known as //3-14-81 Live//. This demo was recorded at a church in Downey, California. Krischak served as the early leader of the band performing as lead vocalist, primary songwriter, and lead guitarist. 
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 +The Lifesavors seemed to be more at home in Hollywood clubs and dance halls than churches. Some of the more famous clubs that they played in were The Starwood, The Whisky-a-Go-Go, The China Club, Cathay de Grande, Club Lingerie, Florentine Gardens, and Cuckoo's Nest. They often played with several punk icons, including the Darby Crash Band (Crash was co-founder of The Germs) in late 1980. They still played at churches from time to time, but Krischak later said “playing at Calvary Costa Mesa was kind of weird because they didn’t really care for dancing there and we were kind of used to everyone dancing and having fun.” 
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 +Krischak later recalled that the band preferred to play their own shows at dance halls: "mostly we rented out halls and did our own shows, which was a good idea, because we wouldn't charge that much to get in (compared to the clubs). We would charge like $1.00, and we used to fill up the halls this way."
  
 Stand also recalled how The Lifesavors had a Bible study at Ray Hersom’s house. [[Altar Boys]] bassist [[Ric Alba]] also worked with The Lifesavors at one point. According to [[Ric Alba|Alba]]: Stand also recalled how The Lifesavors had a Bible study at Ray Hersom’s house. [[Altar Boys]] bassist [[Ric Alba]] also worked with The Lifesavors at one point. According to [[Ric Alba|Alba]]:
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 >"I did some keys for The Lifesavors, but was never a member. They were forming while [[Undercover]] was at the same time. Lifesavors rehearsed in Ray Hersom's living room when Chris and I were renting spare rooms in Ray's house. At that time though, Ray was in [[Undercover]]. At the same time we held open jam sessions at the house, often attended by Kevin's (Lifesavor's drummer) little brother Mike, who became [[Mike Stand]]." >"I did some keys for The Lifesavors, but was never a member. They were forming while [[Undercover]] was at the same time. Lifesavors rehearsed in Ray Hersom's living room when Chris and I were renting spare rooms in Ray's house. At that time though, Ray was in [[Undercover]]. At the same time we held open jam sessions at the house, often attended by Kevin's (Lifesavor's drummer) little brother Mike, who became [[Mike Stand]]."
  
-In early 1981, The Lifesavors and [[Undercover]] were both asked to release albums through The [[Ministry Resource Center]] (MRC) label. By the time The Lifesavors released their debut full length album //Us Kids//, Hersom was not in the band and [[Michael Knott]] had joined on rhythm guitars. Knott has later stated that he was about 16 or 17 years old at this time (but he was more likely 18 or 19). Knott’s involvement with The Lifesavors on //Us Kids// was minimal at the most. According to Lee, “Mike stepped in the middle of the recording. I think he only collaborated on one song.” Stand also stated that the Lifesavors Bible study at Hersom’s house was started five or six months before Knott came on the scene.+In early 1981, The Lifesavors and [[Undercover]] were both asked to release albums through The [[Ministry Resource Center]] (MRC) label. By the time The Lifesavors released their debut full length album //Us Kids//, Hersom was not in the band and [[Michael Knott]] had joined on rhythm guitars. According to Krischak: "I wanted to get a stronger rhythm guitar player, since Ray had just started playing guitar, and I heard that (Knott) was doing a show with his band that was called [[The One]].  After his show, I asked him if he wanted to join the Lifesavers, and he said yes." 
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 +Knott has later stated that he was about 16 or 17 years old at this time (but he was more likely 18 or 19). Knott’s involvement with The Lifesavors on //Us Kids// was minimal at the most. According to Lee, “Mike stepped in the middle of the recording. I think he only collaborated on one song.” Krischak agreed with this assessment, stating "He learned the songs, did a few back-ups on the record, and played some of the rhythm guitars." Stand also stated that the Lifesavors Bible study at Hersom’s house was started five or six months before Knott came on the scene.
  
-Before The Lifesavors, Knott already had an extensive background in the Orange County music scene. Various bands of his like The One, The Hightops, and Michael Knott’s Rubber Band would play clubs such as The Cuckoos Nest and the KooKoo Lounge as well as at colleges, house parties, and pool parties. His bands were so popular that they would draw huge crowds wherever they played. Knott became a an evangelical Christian in high school (although he had been raised a Catholic Christian). A Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa band led by Brian Doidge called [[The Chosen Ones]] put out an ad for a lead singer and Knott auditioned. He then played with The Chosen Ones for a while. Knott’s girlfriend at the time went to see The Lifesavors in concert at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. She met the band and introduced Knott to Krischak. Krischak took Knott to some band practices, and then Knott was asked to join the band. He decided to go with The Lifesavors instead of The Chosen Ones.+Before The Lifesavors, Knott already had an extensive background in the Orange County music scene. Various bands of his like [[The One]], [[The Hightops]], and [[Mike Knotts Rubber Band]] would play clubs such as The Cuckoos Nest and the KooKoo Lounge as well as at colleges, house parties, and pool parties. His bands were so popular that they would draw huge crowds wherever they played. Knott became a an evangelical Christian in high school (although he had been raised a Catholic Christian). A Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa band led by Brian Doidge called [[The Chosen Ones]] put out an ad for a lead singer and Knott auditioned. Knott’s girlfriend at the time went to see The Lifesavors in concert at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. She met the band and introduced Knott to Krischak. Krischak saw Knott play with [[The One]] and then took Knott to some band practices while asking Knott to join the band. He decided to go with The Lifesavors instead of [[The Chosen Ones]].
  
-[[Michael Knott|Knott]] described the band’s early sound as “pseudo punk rock songs.” Many outlets refer to //Us Kids/ as the first Christian punk album (although a few releases like //No Sham!// by the [[Bill Mason Band]] preceded it by two years). The album’s producer Thom Roy refers to the sound as power pop.+[[Michael Knott|Knott]] described the band’s early sound as “pseudo punk rock songs.” Many outlets refer to //Us Kids// as the first Christian punk album (although a few releases like //No Sham!// by the [[Bill Mason Band]] preceded it by two years). The album’s producer Thom Roy refers to the sound as power pop.
  
 Two weeks after joining the band, Knott started dancing around on stage during a Lifesavors concert at Calvary Chapel Downey and encouraging the crowd there to do the same. This led to the band getting in trouble and being banned from playing churches for 8 months. This forced the band to focus almost exclusively on clubs. The Lifesavors became a popular band on the club circuit, often opening for larger bands. The Lifesavors would get anywhere from 800 to 3,000 people at any given gig. Two weeks after joining the band, Knott started dancing around on stage during a Lifesavors concert at Calvary Chapel Downey and encouraging the crowd there to do the same. This led to the band getting in trouble and being banned from playing churches for 8 months. This forced the band to focus almost exclusively on clubs. The Lifesavors became a popular band on the club circuit, often opening for larger bands. The Lifesavors would get anywhere from 800 to 3,000 people at any given gig.
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-A live bootleg from 1982 features [[Mark Krischak|Krischak]], Lee, and [[Michael Knott|Knott]] - as well as mentioning John, Brandon and former member Ray. It is unknown who John and Brandon are. They also talk about recording their second album on their own label. Eight songs from the bootleg were never released, so those were probably meant for the new album that never materialized. [[Michael Knott]] mentions writing one of the unreleased songs called "For You." Another song (“Jesus Hold Me Closer”) was covered by [[Dead Artist Syndrome]] on their 2015 album //Kissing Strangers// and credited to Knott. The song “Front Sliders” was later recorded by [[The Lifters]] on their 1985 album //What Love’s All About// and credited to Chris Brigandi. When asked about the song, Brigandi later said that Knott actually wrote the song but gave it to The Lifters to record as along as he didn’t get publishing credit for it. The only way to do that was to credit the song to Brigandi.+A live bootleg from 1982 features [[Mark Krischak|Krischak]], Lee, and [[Michael Knott|Knott]] - as well as mentioning John, Brandon, and former member Ray. It is unknown who John and Brandon are. They also talk about recording their second album on their own label. Eight songs from the bootleg were never released, so those were probably meant for the new album that never materialized. [[Michael Knott]] mentions writing one of the unreleased songs called "For You." Another song (“Jesus Hold Me Closer”) was covered by [[Dead Artist Syndrome]] on their 2015 album //Kissing Strangers// and credited to Knott. The song “Front Sliders” was later recorded by [[The Lifters]] on their 1985 album //What Love’s All About// and credited to Chris Brigandi. When asked about the song, Brigandi later said that Knott actually wrote the song but gave it to The Lifters to record as along as he didn’t get publishing credit for it. The only way to do that was to credit the song to Brigandi.
  
 At some point in early 1982, Krischak left the band and Knott took over to record the two song //You and Me// single. John and Brandon are not listed on this release. The line-up for the single is just the trio of Knott, Wimber, and Lee. The full story of what happened is unknown at this time, but Lee had this to say at one time about internal disagreements within the band: “Mark got jealous of Mike and quit after [he had] invited Mike in the band in the first place…. We begged Mark not to leave. [Chris] Wimber always had to be the boss, and that caused tension. But Chris was a very creative guy [with a] strong personality and a trendsetter. I love the guy and miss him.” Krischak was also known to later refer to Knott on discussion boards as a “spawn of Satan” that he would never work with again. However, Krischak later had this to say: “there were two front men (me and Mike) and two songwriters (me and Mike) so I figured that the band would be better if it was just going in one direction / singer / songwriter instead of two.” Mike Stand did sound for the band after Krischak left for about 6 months until The Altar Boys took off. At some point in early 1982, Krischak left the band and Knott took over to record the two song //You and Me// single. John and Brandon are not listed on this release. The line-up for the single is just the trio of Knott, Wimber, and Lee. The full story of what happened is unknown at this time, but Lee had this to say at one time about internal disagreements within the band: “Mark got jealous of Mike and quit after [he had] invited Mike in the band in the first place…. We begged Mark not to leave. [Chris] Wimber always had to be the boss, and that caused tension. But Chris was a very creative guy [with a] strong personality and a trendsetter. I love the guy and miss him.” Krischak was also known to later refer to Knott on discussion boards as a “spawn of Satan” that he would never work with again. However, Krischak later had this to say: “there were two front men (me and Mike) and two songwriters (me and Mike) so I figured that the band would be better if it was just going in one direction / singer / songwriter instead of two.” Mike Stand did sound for the band after Krischak left for about 6 months until The Altar Boys took off.
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 {{:the_lifesavors_-_dream_life_-_group.jpg?nolink|}} {{:the_lifesavors_-_dream_life_-_group.jpg?nolink|}}
  
-At some point during the recording, [[Michael Knott|Knott]] says that John Wimber told them that he wanted the band to travel around the United States planting churches. [[Michael Knott|Knott]] didn't feel led to do that, so he left the band and formed [[Idle Lovell]]. Kirk Heiner joined the band after [[Michael Knott|Knott]] left. According to Heiner, at this point they decided to re-record the vocals on //Dream Life//, with Goins singing lead vocals on about five songs and Heiner handling lead vocals on about six. [[Michael Knott|Knott]]'s background vocals were left in the mix, as well as some of his guitar work. Most songs on the //Dream Life// album are credited in part to [[Michael Knott|Knott]]. At the time of the album's release, Lee and Wimber are still listed as members, with Kirk Heiner now listed as guitarist and Brian Goins listed as the new vocalist.+At some point during the recording, [[Michael Knott|Knott]] says that John Wimber told them that he wanted the band to travel around the United States planting churches. [[Michael Knott|Knott]] didn't feel led to do that, so he left the band and formed [[Idle Lovell]]. At some point in this time period, Mark Allen was brought into the band to handle lead vocals for a few months. He played several shows, but ultimately did no work out. Kirk Heiner also joined the band after [[Michael Knott|Knott]] left. According to Heiner, at this point they decided to re-record the vocals on //Dream Life//, with Goins singing lead vocals on about five songs and Heiner handling lead vocals on about six. [[Michael Knott|Knott]]'s background vocals were left in the mix, as well as some of his guitar work. Most songs on the //Dream Life// album are credited in part to [[Michael Knott|Knott]]. At the time of the album's release, Lee and Wimber are still listed as members, with Kirk Heiner now listed as guitarist and Brian Goins listed as the new vocalist.
  
 Goins was not able to tour for //Dream Life//, so [[Mark Krischak|Krischak]] was brought back in for the tour. Goins was not able to tour for //Dream Life//, so [[Mark Krischak|Krischak]] was brought back in for the tour.
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 == as "The Lifesavors" == == as "The Lifesavors" ==
  
-| 1981 | 3-14-81 (live demo) | +| 1981 | [[https://christiantapeunderground.wordpress.com/2026/10/17/the-lifesavors-3-14-81-first-demo/|3-14-81]] (live demo) | 
-| 1981 | Us Kids | [[Swing Records]] |+| 1981 | [[https://christiantapeunderground.wordpress.com/2026/10/17/the-lifesavors-us-kids-reissue/|Us Kids]] | [[Swing Records]] |
 | 1982 | You and Me (7-inch) | [[Swing Records]] | | 1982 | You and Me (7-inch) | [[Swing Records]] |
 | 1982 | Live 1982 (bootleg) | | 1982 | Live 1982 (bootleg) |
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 1990 [[Key Records]] (KEY 8) 1990 [[Key Records]] (KEY 8)
  
-[[Mark Krischak]]\\ +[[Mark Krischak]] - Lead vocals, guitars\\ 
-Chris Wimber\\ +Ray Hersom - Rhtymn guitars, backing vocals\\ 
-Kevin Lee\\ +Chris Wimber - Bass guitar, backing vocals\\ 
-(others?)+Kevin Lee - Drums, backing vocals
  
   - Christianity   - Christianity
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 1981 [[Swing Records]]\\ 1981 [[Swing Records]]\\
 +1990 [[Key Records]]\\
 1999 [[M8 Records]] 1999 [[M8 Records]]
  
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   * [[Lifesavors]]   * [[Lifesavors]]
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 +{{tag>punk_rock california united_states 1981 1982 1983 1984 1986 1991 1995}}
  
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